# Things Are Getting Messy

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Podcast: [Freelance to Founder](https://stenobird.com/podcast/freelance-to-founder-55033)
Published: 2026-04-07T22:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Emma Clark runs Clark Content Co. and has spent years managing projects from her inbox and a few spreadsheets—until now. With two contractors on board and plans to hire more, things are getting messy fast. Preston and Christine Olivas break down why defining roles and responsibilities is the real foundation of any good system, and share the surprisingly lean tech stack that keeps Christine's 25-person team running smoothly across complex, fast-moving agency engagements. Support our show sponsors → ⁠https://freelancetofounder.com/sponsors⁠ Submit your own question → ⁠https://freelancetofounder.com/ask⁠ Learn more about guest co-host, Christine → ⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/colivas/⁠⁠ — ⁠⁠https://nosingleindividual.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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