# A Fourth Turning Conversation with Andy Schaalman

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Podcast: [Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone](https://stenobird.com/podcast/free-thinking-through-the-fourth-turning-with-sasha-stone-5501501)
Published: 2026-04-27T21:17:10+00:00
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## Resource

As promised, my conversation with my friend Andy Schaalman who has a Substack called Fourth Turning Chronicles but does most of his work on his YouTube channel The Generation Report. We are catching up on our current Fourth Turning. We touch on the assassination attempt, the war in Iran, Israel, the danger of the Left taking back power and what our future might be. We are at a crisis point and it could go either way. This is the video from his channel recommended in the podcast: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.sashastone.com/subscribe

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