# Brian Koehn of Social Purpose Corrections on The Mark Edge Show

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Published: 2026-06-19T06:05:28+00:00
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## Resource

Could a Nonprofit Prison Actually Fix Corrections in America? Brian Koehn spent 28 years as a warden in private corrections, running five facilities and overseeing security at 65 more. Now he's building Social Purpose Corrections, a nonprofit prison model that doesn't exist anywhere else in the US, designed to fix the incentives that keep the system broken. Mark Edge talks with Brian about why correctional officer turnover is the root cause behind almost every failure in American prisons, why "hard on crime" wins elections but makes outcomes worse, and why the real recidivism numbers are nowhere close to what most states report. They also get into the case for "smart on crime" over "hard on crime," and why Brian, having actually run the system, sees a distinction that matters more than most politicians want to admit. Learn more: SPCOR.ORG This episode is sponsored by SALT Lending. For more information, email SALT@MarkEdge.org #FreeTalkLive #MarkEdge #MarkEdgington #CriminalJusticeReform #PrisonReform #Corrections #SocialPurposeCorrections

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