# Sal and Mark - EP 7

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Podcast: [Free Talk Live](https://stenobird.com/podcast/free-talk-live-4008505)
Published: 2026-06-23T02:40:23+00:00
Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/freetalklive/samsep7
Audio file: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2344487174-freetalklive-samsep7.mp3
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Duration seconds: 7170

## Resource

Mark is in Costa Rica, so Sal Mayweather and Free Talk Live veteran Wayne Quinn hold it down for a packed episode covering everything from the Zcash exploit to the future of financial privacy. Vic, CEO of CakeWallet, joins the show to break down the recent attacks on Zcash and ThorChain, why AI finding crypto exploits is actually a good thing, and what the Clarity Act could mean for self custody and open source development. He also gives a first look at Cupcake, CakeWallet's air gapped signing device that turns your old phone into a hardware wallet, and teases a brand new secret project dropping July 7th. Mark's interview with Andrew Heaton, author of Tribalism Is Dumb, rounds out the episode with a sharp and genuinely funny breakdown of why humans are wired for tribalism, how social media made it worse, and why AI might actually help dial it back. Sal also runs the Agorist segment, covering how to use privacy coins like Monero, Firo, Pirate Chain, and Zano for gray market trades and how to build real operational security in a world that is watching everything. SALT Lending: SALT@MarkEdge.org #FreeTalkLive #MarkEdge #MarkEdgington #SalandMark #CakeWallet #Monero #PrivacyCoins #Crypto #Firo #Zano #Dash #EdgeWallet #Trocador

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