# The AI Armory—Reverse Engineering Fraud Tools (with Robert Capps)

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Podcast: [Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fraudology-podcast-with-karisse-hendrick-1368872)
Published: 2026-02-10T08:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

Fraudology is presented by Sardine . Request a 1:1 product demo at sardine.ai In this episode of Fraudology , Karisse Hendrick welcomes back elite fraud fighter and Stratovera CEO Robert Capps to discuss the shifting power balance in the age of AI. Robert shares a fascinating "thought experiment" where he used Large Language Models (LLMs) to reverse engineer obfuscated JavaScript , proving that even non-technical attackers can now identify and dismantle complex front-end fraud tools in real-time. The conversation dives deep into the "Build vs. Buy" debate, with Robert cautioning organizations that the true cost of building internal tools isn't just the initial code—it's the ongoing "immune response" required to fight an AI-powered adversary that never sleeps. From the "radioactive decay" of legacy device ID to the necessity of designing "entropy" into system responses, this episode is a masterclass in modern fraud strategy. Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line. Connect with her on LinkedIn She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

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