# Scam Centers, Agentic Commerce Liability, and the Fraud Leadership Crisis

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Podcast: [Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fraudology-podcast-with-karisse-hendrick-1368872)
Published: 2026-04-28T08:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://fraudology-podcast.captivate.fm/episode/scam-centers-agentic-commerce-liability-and-the-fraud-leadership-crisis
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## Resource

In this episode of Fraudology , Karisse Hendrick provides a comprehensive update on the shifting tides of the fraud industry, from international takedowns to the growing pains of AI-driven commerce. Karisse dives into the latest news and personal insights gathered from her network, cutting through the industry hype to provide practical realities for fraud and payments professionals. The conversation explores the evolving mechanics of Agentic AI in commerce and how the major card brands are reacting to it. Karisse provides an inside look at new protection frameworks, such as American Express’s "ACE Developer Kit," and contrasts them with the current lack of "compelling evidence" provisions for AI agents at Visa and Mastercard. We also explore the "hot topics" dominating the fraud landscape today: The Scam Center Strike Force: A breakdown of recent DOJ actions against Southeast Asian criminal organizations, the seizure of $700 million in cryptocurrency, and the sobering reality of human trafficking victims trapped in these compounds. The Positive Lure Phishing Scam: Why hackers are spoofing platforms like Paperless Post and Evite to bypass traditional "fear-based" training, using our desire for community to harvest credentials and install malware. The Human Element vs. AI: Why senior fraud leadership cannot be replaced by LLMs. Karisse explains how the critical "domain expertise" and "institutional knowledge" required to manage sophisticated fraud are not found in the open-source data that powers AI. The Fraud Job Market Crisis: A candid look at the recent wave of layoffs affecting veteran fraud fighters, the trend of "pay band reductions," and strategic advice for those navigating a saturated and increasingly centralized job market.

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