# Inside Deconflict: Bridging Law Enforcement and Banking

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Podcast: [Fraud Forward](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fraud-forward-6896520)
Published: 2026-07-08T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What’s up fraud fighters, and welcome back to Fraud Forward! In this episode, I’m sitting down with Mudassar Malik, Special Agent with the U.S. Secret Service and Founder and CEO of Deconflict.com, to talk about something our industry needs to get a whole lot better at: financial crime deconflict. Money mule networks do not care where one institution’s visibility ends and another one begins. Pig butchering scams, romance scams, business email compromise, BEC fraud, account takeover, wire fraud, they all move across people, accounts, institutions, platforms, and jurisdictions. Meanwhile, too many of us are still trying to solve pieces of the same case from opposite sides of the wall. Mudassar walks us through what happens when law enforcement and banking actually have a better way to connect investigative intelligence, share what they are seeing, and recognize when different teams may be looking at the same financial crime pattern from different angles. This episode is not about sharing everything with everybody. It is about better fraud response, better financial crime intelligence, and better collaboration between the people who are already fighting the same criminal networks. Because if a credit union, a community bank, a larger institution, and law enforcement are all seeing pieces of the same mule activity, but nobody can connect those pieces fast enough, the criminals keep moving. And the victims keep paying for it. What you’ll hear in this episode: Why financial crime deconflict matters for banks, credit unions, fintechs, and law enforcement How the Deconflict platform helps connect investigative intelligence across financial crime cases Why money mule networks, pig butchering scams, romance scams, and BEC fraud require cross-institutional visibility Where 314(b)…

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