# Presumption of Innocence - Episode 94

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Podcast: [Fox Rothschild: The Presumption of Innocence](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fox-rothschild-the-presumption-of-innocence-7819162)
Published: 2026-09-22T12:45:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.foxrothschild.com/publications/the-presumption-of-innocence-podcast-series
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## Resource

Episode 94 Ending the White Collar Life Sentence: The Power of Hope and Community Hosted by Matt Adams "The objective is not simply to become pardonable. The objective is to become whole." Those powerful words come from Jeff Grant, a lawyer whose career unraveled through addiction and criminality, who served time in federal prison and who has spent the decades since rebuilding his life in service to others. In this riveting episode, host Matt Adams welcomes back Jeff, who is now an ordained minister, advocate and founder of Grant Law, a new kind of law firm helping individuals navigate the issues surrounding white collar prosecution that criminal defense attorneys typically can't address. Together, they tackle the hidden trauma of prosecution, the near-impossible odds of obtaining a presidential pardon and why community may be the only real antidote to isolation. Jeff shares how his White Collar Support Group — which has held over 530 weekly meetings via Zoom — has helped nearly 2,000 people find hope, connection and a way forward. You'll also hear about the Federal Expungement Initiative, a legislative push Jeff is co-leading to create an expungement path through Congress. And you'll get a preview of his forthcoming essay and the Third Annual White Collar Conference on Oct. 10. If you believe a life can become something larger than its worst chapter, this conversation is for you. You can listen to Matt's previous conversation with Jeff in episode 22, "Reclaiming Purpose: A Transformative Journey Through Addiction, Rehab and Prison," here . The views expressed in this podcast are those of the participants and should not be considered the views of Fox Rothschild LLP or its attorneys. This podcast is for informational purposes only, is not legal advice, and does not crea…

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