# Black Excellence vs Black Exhaustion | What Are We Carrying…And Passing Down?

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Podcast: [Four Titles, One Truth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/four-titles-one-truth-7320628)
Published: 2026-03-09T13:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Black excellence is something many of us were taught to pursue. But what happens when excellence starts to feel like exhaustion? In this episode of Four Titles, One Truth, Tommie Jones II and Lance Taylor reflect on the expectations many Black men grow up carrying — the pressure to succeed, the responsibility to represent more than just ourselves, and the quiet weight that can come with constantly striving. This conversation looks honestly at the balance between pride and pressure, and how those expectations shaped our upbringing, our careers, and our approach to fatherhood. This episode is not meant to speak for all men. It’s simply our lived experiences, reflections, and lessons learned over time. In this episode we discuss: • What Black excellence meant growing up • When pride in achievement can start to feel like pressure • The expectations many Black men feel to succeed for others • The difference between what we were raised with and what our children experience today • What we think about when it comes to what we pass down to the next generation Four Titles, One Truth is a real-talk podcast for Black men navigating life as: • Husbands • Fathers • Veterans • Men Through honest conversation and lived experience, Tommie and Lance explore leadership, identity, family, and growth.

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