# Last Exit To Springfield (with Jay Kogen)

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Podcast: [Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/four-finger-discount-simpsons-podcast-541057)
Published: 2026-05-07T01:13:32+00:00
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Duration seconds: 6558

## Resource

Dental Plan! Dando needs braces! This week we discuss what many consider the greatest Simpsons episode of all time, "Last Exit To Springfield", with one of its co-writers, Jay Kogen! On top of the episode, we also discuss the competitiveness of the Simpsons writer's room, Dr. Hibbert's original name, creating characters like Mr. Burns and Sideshow Bob, memories of working with the likes of Sam Simon, Kelsey Grammer, Conan O'Brien and more! Plus, we find out once and for all whether Smithers was originally intended to be black (the answer may shock you!) NOTE: Proper discussion about the episode begins at the 1 hour mark. Check out Jay's podcast at dontbealonewjk.com Support the show on Patreon at patreon.com/fourfingerdiscount Listen on Spotify - spoti.fi/4fDcSY0 Listen on Apple Podcasts - apple.co/4dgpW3Z CHECK OUT OUR OTHER PODCASTS: Goin' Down To South Park - spreaker.com/show/goin-down-to-south-park The Movie Guide with Maltin & Davis - themovieguidepodcast.com The One About Friends - spreaker.com/show/the-one-about-friends-podcast Talking Seinfeld - spreaker.com/show/talking-seinfeld SpeaKing Of The Hill - spreaker.com/show/speaking-of-the-hill-a-king-of-the-hill- The Office Talk - spreaker.com/show/the-office-talk-podcast Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/four-finger-discount-simpsons-podcast--5828977/support .

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