# Burnout Expert: "I Became A Millionaire At 23 And Felt Nothing" | Ep. 444 with Brent Freeman

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Podcast: [Founder's Story](https://stenobird.com/podcast/founder-s-story-648906)
Published: 2026-09-16T15:32:34+00:00
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## Resource

Daniel Robbins sits down with Brent Freeman, entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, and author of The Alchemy of Joy, to unpack why achievement, money, and business success do not automatically create happiness. Brent shares how he closed a $10 million deal at 23, became a millionaire on paper, and woke up the next morning feeling emotionally empty. The conversation explores burnout, hustle culture, neuroscience, childhood trauma, meditation, entrepreneurship, money, presence, and the practical tools Brent now teaches to help high performers stop deferring joy for “one day” and start experiencing it now.

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