# Burnout Is a Nervous System Problem Not a Productivity Problem | Ep. 323 with Mandy Morris Executive Psychology Coach and Co-founder of SoFree

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Published: 2026-03-13T11:55:00+00:00
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## Resource

Daniel Robbins talks with Mandy Morris about why emotional intelligence is misunderstood and why most high achievers are trying to think their way out of a problem happening in their bodies. Mandy explains that we are feeling beings that think, and that burnout is often a nervous system and belief system issue, not a lack of hacks or discipline. She also shares practical resets from the transcript, including body scans, breath patterns, and bilateral stimulation, plus the story behind building the soFree app to help people shift out of fight or flight in under two minutes.

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