# "AI Isn't Under Control": The Founder Solving a $20 Trillion Problem | Ep. 397 with Brandon Card CEO of Terzo AI

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Podcast: [Founder's Story](https://stenobird.com/podcast/founder-s-story-648906)
Published: 2026-05-13T13:52:00+00:00
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## Resource

Daniel Robbins sits down with Brandon Card, CEO and co-founder of Terzo, to expose a massive enterprise blind spot: companies are committing billions through contracts but tracking the truth in SharePoint folders and 95-slide decks. Brandon shares how he lived the pain at Microsoft, managing $100M+ deals while customers couldn’t even find their own contracts, and why legacy CLM tools were built for lawyers, not finance and procurement. They unpack the Terzo origin story launched on March 13, 2020, why humans-in-the-loop is mandatory for financial accuracy, and why Brandon believes AI models aren’t fully under control yet.

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