# Kirsten de Greling – Visman on Using AI Smartly in Your Job Search

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Podcast: [Forward-Looking Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/forward-looking-leadership-6473861)
Published: 2026-07-14T15:43:04+00:00
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## Resource

Kirsten de Greling-Visman (linkedin.com/in/kirstendegrelingvisman [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstendegrelingvisman/], claritycompasscareercoach.com [https://www.claritycompasscareercoach.com/]), international career strategist and founder of Clarity Compass Career Coaching, joins host Dan Freehling (contempusleadership.com [https://www.contempusleadership.com/]) to share how she helps clients use AI smartly in their job search. Kirsten explains why she started building AI systems after watching clients' applications lose all personality (00:48), and walks through her "own your story" foundation, culture matching, and trigger-event research (05:07). She makes the case for using Gemini's live, Google-integrated search rather than frozen data (07:31), and breaks down her weekly strategy across the public and hidden job markets (11:01). Kirsten and Dan discuss why human connection and networking are still critical even with AI (21:21), her own path across nine countries and path to career coaching (26:02), and why most senior transitions happen before a role is ever posted (33:36). Recommended Reading: "Working Identity [https://bookshop.org/p/books/working-identity-unconventional-strategies-for-reinventing-your-career-herminia-ibarra/570a62bc3a115939]" by Herminia Ibarra. Kirsten also returns often to Brené Brown on owning your story, and points to LinkedIn and Brainz Magazine (brainzmagazine.com [https://www.brainzmagazine.com/]) as ongoing resources. Show notes at forwardlookingleadership.com [https://forwardlookingleadership.com/].

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