# On Rethinking Wellness Programs/ Guest: Dan Eisner, Advisor, ZLC Employee Benefits Solutions Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions.md Podcast: [For Leaders By Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839) Published: 2025-08-07T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://ForLeadersByLeaders.podbean.com/e/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8gzx7cujt79sh3n8/FLBL_Dan_Eisner_v2_1_6lwdx.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/episodes/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions Duration seconds: 1147 ## Resource Why do so many employee wellness programs fail, and what can leaders do to fix them? Employee benefit and wellness expert Dan Eisner unpacks what leaders can do. With a background in both accounting and HR, Dan shares insights on shifting employee expectations, personalised benefits, and generational divides. From health spending accounts to weight loss drugs and fitness trends, find out what actually drives engagement. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (01:44) Dan Eisner’s career journey and background (02:26) What is changing in the world of wellness? (05:37) Why employees aren't using wellness programs (07:39) Having a health spending account (10:44) How to encourage fitness at work (13:07) Tips to keep your workforce as healthy as possible (15:42) Modelling behaviour as leaders (17:30) For Leaders By Leaders Lightning Round Connect with Dan Eisner here: Dan Eisner on LinkedIn ZLC Employee Benefits Solutions Better Benefits Podcast Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/episodes/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-rethinking-wellness-programs-guest-dan-eisner-advisor-zlc-employee-benefits-solutions.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.