# On Leading Inclusively in 2025/ Guest: Anne-Marie Pham, VP, Engagement, Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion (CCDI) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi.md Podcast: [For Leaders By Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839) Published: 2025-11-27T20:47:53+00:00 Episode link: https://ForLeadersByLeaders.podbean.com/e/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/e4kpry44j34xvgtt/FLBL_Anne-Marie_Pham9iy6m.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/episodes/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi Duration seconds: 2273 ## Resource As a political refugee who crossed three countries before finding home in Canada, Anne-Marie Pham turned her lived experience into a career dedicated to creating workplaces where everyone belongs. She is now the Vice President of Engagement at the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion. In this episode, Anne-Marie unpacks why leadership demands courage and a willingness to get uncomfortable. She shares practical frameworks leaders can use today, along with mindset shifts that transform diversity from a checkbox into a superpower. Tune in to this episode as we explore: (00:00) Building inclusion across Canada (04:23) Embracing industry collaboration challenges (07:44) Building inclusive, equitable workplaces (11:32) Six traits of inclusive leadership (15:08) Courage, accountability and collaboration (17:41) Embracing cultures with open minds (23:35) Flexible holidays for inclusion (27:51) Understanding cultural influences in leadership (31:12) Shared responsibility in leadership feedback (33:01) Future of work and immigration (36:13) Diversity resources and programs offered Connect with Andrea Seale here: Anne-Marie Pham on LinkedIn Interested in developing more effective leadership skills? Connect with Cinga today here. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/episodes/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-leaders-by-leaders-7058839/on-leading-inclusively-in-2025-guest-anne-marie-pham-vp-engagement-canadian-centre-for-diversity-and-inclusion-ccdi.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.