# AI Safety on the Frontlines | For Humanity #73

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Podcast: [For Humanity: An AI Risk Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-humanity-an-ai-risk-podcast-6669100)
Published: 2025-11-08T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theairisknetwork.substack.com/p/ai-safety-on-the-frontlines-for-humanity
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## Resource

In this episode of For Humanity , host John Sherman speaks with Esben Kran , one of the leading figures in the for-profit AI safety movement, joining live from Ukraine — where he’s exploring the intersection of AI safety, autonomous drones, and the defense tech boom. 🔎 They discuss: * The rise of for-profit AI safety startups and why technology must lead regulation. * How Ukraine’s drone industry became the frontline of autonomous warfare. * What happens when AI gains control — and how we might still shut it down. * The chilling concept of a global “AI kill chain” and what humanity must do now. Esben also shares insights from companies like Lucid Computing and Workshop Labs , the growing global coordination challenges, and why the next AI safety breakthroughs may not come from labs in Berkeley — but from battlefields and builders abroad. 🔗 Subscribe for more conversations about AI risk, ethics, and the fight to build a safe future for humanity. 📺 Watch more episodes #AISafety #AIAlignment #ForHumanityPodcast #AIRisk #FutureOfAI #AIandWarfare #AutonomousWeapons #AIEthics #TechForGood #ArtificialIntelligence This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theairisknetwork.substack.com/subscribe

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