# The Browser Wars: Then and Now

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Podcast: [For a Better Web](https://stenobird.com/podcast/for-a-better-web-7035190)
Published: 2025-05-09T13:38:50+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Bruce chats with Gene Burrus, who formerly worked as Assistant General Counsel for Microsoft, working on legal compliance after the landmark Netscape anti-trust case, and now advises Vivaldi and others in the Browser Choice Alliance about how to stop Microsoft going back to its old ways. On the way, we discuss the Cold War, TV courtroom dramas, and why Gene prefers to be poacher-turned-gamekeeper.------------ Show notes: Burrus Competition Strategies Gene on LinkedIn Browser Choice Alliance United States v. Microsoft Corp ("Netscape case") Vivaldi’s Open Letter — Microsoft DMA Compliance Microsoft Edge pseudo-protocol Commission finds Apple and Meta in breach of the Digital Markets Act Vivaldi’s statement on Apple and Meta DMA anti-trust fines Bruce Sewell, Former General Counsel of Apple Interviewed "Competition is what will ensure that Apple’s conduct and business decisions do not thwart the next Apple" from DOJ and States vs Apple "Objection, your honor!"

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