# 561. A Conversation with Patrick Webb and Caitlin Grady on Dismantling USAID: What it Means, Part 4

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Published: 2026-06-25T13:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

On Food Talk with Dani Nierenberg, Dani speaks with Patrick Webb, a Professor at the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University, and Caitlin Grady, Associate Professor and Director of Research and Policy at the Global Food Institute at the George Washington University, for Part 4 of Food Tank's series exploring the far-reaching impacts of dismantling the U.S. Agency for International Development. They discuss what the loss of USAID means for global food and nutrition security, the disappearance of institutional memory, and how we get back to a place where we once again embrace science. While you're listening, subscribe, rate, and review the show; it would mean the world to us to have your feedback. You can listen to "Food Talk with Dani Nierenberg" wherever you consume your podcasts.

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