# Leading Breakthroughs - Strategy, Resistance & the Real Work of Driving Change

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Podcast: [FMI Built-In Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fmi-built-in-podcast-5972281)
Published: 2025-07-08T14:00:12+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/fmi-built-in/2087112
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## Resource

In our latest podcast, host Scott Winstead talks with Bob Uhler, former CEO and chairman of MWH Global, and Garry Sanderson, former MWH executive and author of "The Change Engineer," about what it takes to lead lasting change at scale. Bob transformed MWH from a $100 million firm to a $1.6 billion global leader in water infrastructure. Garry's behavioral science lens helps decode why strategy often fails during execution. The conversation covers: The four levels of leadership How to fight corporate inertia Creating the right conditions for behavior to scale Don't miss this episode, which is packed tips you can apply immediately to improve your business.

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