# The Countryman–Foreigner Distinction (ft. Matthew Crawford)

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Podcast: [First Things Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/first-things-podcast-829281)
Published: 2026-03-05T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Matthew B. Crawford joins R. R. Reno on The Editor's Desk to talk about his recent essay, “Love in the Time of Mass Migration” from the March 2026 issue of the magazine.

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