# The Church of Ratzinger (ft. Sam Zeno Conedera)

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Podcast: [First Things Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/first-things-podcast-829281)
Published: 2026-06-04T08:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Sam Zeno Conedera joins R. R. Reno on The Editor's Desk to talk about his recent review, “Ratzinger in the Whirlwind” from the May 2026 issue of the magazine.

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