# Episode 38: Frank Turman - From Attending the Derby as a Fan to Winning Graded Stakes As An Owner

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Podcast: [First Rodeo Radio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/first-rodeo-radio-7022295)
Published: 2026-03-11T12:22:16+00:00
Episode link: https://www.firstrodeoracing.com/podcast/episode-28-jonathan-rapp-twin-sports-racing-from-the-craps-table-at-18-to-winning-stakes-races-7mcyt-w8skh-mzw9d-chtk7-d2bz2-ekz26-f78f5-62djg-xxcx9-x8ykm
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Summary In this conversation, Frank Turman shares how a chance encounter at a Kentucky Derby laid the pathway to being a graded stakes winning owner. Frank & Matt recount their wins at Oaklawn in February, where the two met and discuss how Frank got his start as an owner. The conversation covers how Frank got connected to a bloodstock agent, Mike Maker, and Norm Casse. They talk through some of the next "firsts" that Turman Racing Stables is chasing, as well as ideas to grow the game. Interested in owning a piece of Two Seven O and all the horses in First Rodeo? Learn more at firstrodeoracing.com

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