# Dr. John King: Living the Spirit of SISU

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Podcast: [First Online With Fran](https://stenobird.com/podcast/first-online-with-fran-8997)
Published: 2026-03-13T18:36:12+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.show/firstonlinewithfran/episode/152947376/
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There's always hope. You can't say the word hope without smiling. Hope is that ability to get up and go again. The Finnish have word for it--SISU. What it means is white-knuckle courage in the face of overwhelming odds. When everything is lost, the spirit of SISU manifests itself. And for me SISU means relentless resilience. I'm incredibly stubborn and the idea of ever giving up never crossed my mind. I had to prove that they were wrong. That they could never break me. Dr. John A. King is an Australian-born, Indigenous (Warumungu) author, speaker, and survivor-advocate based in Texas.

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