# Ben McKenzie’s warning about crypto: ‘All hell will eventually break loose’ Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052/ben-mckenzie-s-warning-about-crypto-all-hell-will-eventually-break-loose Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052/ben-mckenzie-s-warning-about-crypto-all-hell-will-eventually-break-loose.md Podcast: [Firing Line with Margaret Hoover](https://stenobird.com/podcast/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052) Published: 2026-04-25T00:00:01+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/firing-line/episodes/Ben-McKenzies-warning-about-crypto-All-hell-will-eventually-break-loose-e3iea3m Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/59ca458c/podcast/play/119006774/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-24%2F2ffe5209-92df-c84e-8f57-6e10f8c49342.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052/episodes/ben-mckenzie-s-warning-about-crypto-all-hell-will-eventually-break-loose Duration seconds: 3056 ## Resource Ben McKenzie joins Margaret Hoover to break down his new documentary about cryptocurrency, “Everyone Is Lying to You for Money,” and the dangers he believes crypto poses to investors and the economy itself. McKenzie–best known for his performances on “The O.C.,” “Southland,” and “Gotham”--explains why he grew skeptical of crypto while other men embraced it and reflects on what he learned from talking to fraudsters like Sam Bankman-Fried and investors who got scammed. The six-time Teen Choice Award nominee defends his assertion that cryptocurrency is only good for crime and gambling, highlights Jeffrey Epstein’s role in crypto’s development, and comments on the challenges of regulating the industry. McKenzie also discusses President Trump’s crypto ventures and the conflicts of interest they present, and he criticizes fellow celebrities who have endorsed crypto products without understanding the risks. Support for Firing Line with Margaret Hoover is provided by Robert Granieri, Vanessa and Henry Cornell, The Fairweather Foundation, The Tepper Foundation, Peter and Mary Kalikow, The Beth and Ravenel Curry Foundation, Pritzker Military Foundation, Cliff and Laurel Asness, The Margaret and Daniel Loeb Foundation, Katharine J. Rayner, Charles R. Schwab, Lindsay and George Billingsley, The Meadowlark Foundation, Jared Stone, Al and Kathy Hubbard, and Craig Newmark Philanthropies. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052/episodes/ben-mckenzie-s-warning-about-crypto-all-hell-will-eventually-break-loose/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/firing-line-with-margaret-hoover-3927052/ben-mckenzie-s-warning-about-crypto-all-hell-will-eventually-break-loose.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.