# LIVE FROM P&T: The Astonishing Depolarizing Power of Dogs

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Podcast: [Firewall with Bradley Tusk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/firewall-with-bradley-tusk-7228)
Published: 2026-07-09T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://firewall.media
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## Resource

In this special taping in front of a live audience on the Lower East Side, Bradley hosts his niece Ellie Gottheimer, daughter of Rep. Josh Gottheimer, and Larra Mullin, daughter of Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin, to discuss their new children's book Shmoo & Ozzie Go to Washington , which imparts an important message about bipartisanship and democracy — through the story of two dogs. This episode was taped at P&T Knitwear at 180 Orchard Street — New York City’s only free podcast recording studio. Send us an email with your thoughts on today’s episode: info@firewall.media . Subscribe to Bradley's weekly newsletter and follow Bradley on Linkedin + Substack .

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