# Exploring the A-B-C Method

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Published: 2026-08-25T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On this episode of The C.A.N. Report, host Mike Goldstein welcomes Robert Ramirez to talk firefighter rescue, building a new fire department in Jupiter, Florida, and bridging modern self-rescue tactics to classrooms worldwide. They cover Ramirez's recent FDIC debut, his train-the-trainer work in Germany, and reasons why social media matters for recruitment. Goldstein and Ramirez also explore the A-B-C method for entanglements—Avoid, Back Up, and Cut.

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