# "Not Your Father's Fire Department": Tim Pley on Leading Through Unprecedented Change in the Volunteer Fire Service

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Podcast: [Fire Fighting in Canada: The Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fire-fighting-in-canada-the-podcast-4427714)
Published: 2025-07-04T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://fire-fighting-in-canada.captivate.fm
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## Resource

Join us on this insightful podcast episode as host Ret. Fire Chief Tom DeSorcy sits down with Tim Pley, a former fire chief, past president of the Fire Chiefs Association of BC, and local government CAO, to explore the evolving landscape of the volunteer fire service. Pley offers invaluable insights into the challenges facing volunteerism today, from societal shifts and the 'gig economy' affecting recruitment, to the evolving expectations around compensation and the need for new leadership approaches. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the pivotal changes and future direction of the fire service, emphasizing that 'this is not your father's fire department' and leaders must adapt their methods to lead differently and value the time and contributions of younger generations.

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