# Lessons from a 45-Year Veteran

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Podcast: [Fire Engineering Podcast Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fire-engineering-podcast-network-1075754)
Published: 2026-06-12T21:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Perspectives on Leadership, Chief Mike Nugent of Broward County (FL) Fire Rescue sits down with Stephen Shaw to outline his 45-year career in fire and special operations. Nugent shares the story of a childhood moment in Brighton that sparked this lifelong calling. He discusses technical rescue teams, building regional hazmat and urban search and rescue capabilities, and training around the world. They share practical lessons: Teach the why, demonstrate how to use tools, train hard scenarios, and mentor young firefighters joining the force. Nugent stresses the importance of both mental and physical health, detailing his cardiac arrest survival and long-term health problems from toxic exposure.

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