# How Thermal Imaging is Elevating the Fire Service

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Podcast: [Fire Engineering Podcast Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fire-engineering-podcast-network-1075754)
Published: 2026-07-17T21:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://fireengineeringpodcastnetwork.podbean.com/e/the-art-of-pursuing-special-ops-and-building%c2%a0mental-resiliency/
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## Resource

In this episode of Perspectives on Leadership, host Steven Shaw speaks with Retired Battalion Chief Andy Starnes. They unpack how thermal imaging became a mission, not just a tool in the fire service, and how relationships and critical thinking shape the fire service. Starnes details his start in volunteer firehouses, an injury that led to the launch of Insight Fire Training, and how sharing hard-earned tactics saves lives. They tackle behavioral health, the cost of social media negativity, toxic leadership, and saying "yes" to the right things.

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