# Getting Real About Using AI and Other Nonoperational Behaviors

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Podcast: [Fire Engineering Podcast Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fire-engineering-podcast-network-1075754)
Published: 2026-05-22T21:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://fireengineeringpodcastnetwork.podbean.com/e/getting-real-about-using-ai-and-other-nonoperational-behaviors/
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## Resource

On this episode of Tailboard Talk, hosts Jeff Wallin, Craig Nelson, and Chris Rasmussen welcome Eric Rosoff, executive manager of the Career Survival Group to discuss how AI and other nonoperational behaviors are ending firefighter careers. Rosoff explains why AI‑generated content, like deepfakes and altered images, has already led to terminations, and why frontline supervisors must be able to spot and stop risky conduct at the kitchen‑table level. They also explore how administrative safety violations are the root of most firefighter personnel actions, terminations, and workplace lawsuits.

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