# Data and Decisions on the Fireground

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Podcast: [Fire Engineering Podcast Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fire-engineering-podcast-network-1075754)
Published: 2026-07-22T23:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Two Vollies and a Guest, hosts Jerry Knapp and Tim Pillsworth get to the grit of fireground tactics with Brian Brush. The training chief of the Midwest City (OK) Fire Department and Fire Engineering board member shares critical insights. The discussion covers the realities of modern search operations, highlighting victim location patterns, and how pet behavior can guide searchers to trapped occupants. Brush's work proves that data, not just tradition, should drive department training.

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