# The Psychology of Pain | Dr Tom Walters Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955/the-psychology-of-pain-dr-tom-walters Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955/the-psychology-of-pain-dr-tom-walters.md Podcast: [Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais](https://stenobird.com/podcast/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955) Published: 2026-09-23T07:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://findingmastery.com/podcasts/tom-walters Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/mgln.ai/e/120/rss.art19.com/episodes/b3ee7aba-1bb1-4c62-b5c9-ff40c784ce33.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955/episodes/the-psychology-of-pain-dr-tom-walters Duration seconds: 4661 ## Resource How much of the time you spend in pain comes from the injury itself, and how much comes from the fear around it? Dr. Tom Walters is a board-certified orthopedic physical therapist, strength and conditioning specialist, educator, and founder of Rehab Science. He has spent more than two decades helping people understand pain, movement, and injury recovery, and he is the author of Rehab Science: How to Overcome Pain and Heal from Injury. Tom’s starting point is that pain and injury are not the same thing. Pain is an unpleasant sensory or emotional experience tied to actual or potential tissue damage, which means what you believe about your body can change what you feel in it. Tom and Mike get into the nocebo effect, how a clinician’s words or reaction to a scan can amplify pain, why the field traded the word chronic for persistent, and how to manage exercise loads as your body adapts. Mike tells the story of an MRI he had around the age of 23. The doctor looked at the film, his eyes got big, and he asked if Mike was okay. Mike says his pain felt worse instantly. Tom says many musculoskeletal conditions improve with time and movement. He encourages people to take an active role in recovery: try an appropriate movement, notice how your body responds, and adjust from there. Enjoy the conversation. ___________________________________________________________________ Links & Resources: Dr. Tom Walters’ Website: rehabscience.com Dr. Tom Walters’ Books: Rehab Science: How to Overcome Pain and Heal from Injury , plus the 2026 Rehab Science body-region series: Knee, Back and Spine, Hip, Shoulder, Elbow, Wrist & Hand, Ankle and Foot, and Head & Neck Dr. Tom Walters’ YouTube Channel: Rehab Science The Rehab Science App: Rehab Science on the App Store Subscribe to our Yout… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955/episodes/the-psychology-of-pain-dr-tom-walters/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/finding-mastery-with-dr-michael-gervais-4955/the-psychology-of-pain-dr-tom-walters.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.