# How Founders Mistake Models Only for Fundraising and What They Should Do With Ilyas Anis Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942/how-founders-mistake-models-only-for-fundraising-and-what-they-should-do-with-ilyas-anis Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942/how-founders-mistake-models-only-for-fundraising-and-what-they-should-do-with-ilyas-anis.md Podcast: [Financial Modeler's Corner](https://stenobird.com/podcast/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942) Published: 2026-06-02T11:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.thefpandaguy.com/blog-3-1 Audio file: https://op3.dev/e/episodes.captivate.fm/episode/510234a1-7bb9-41f9-93d4-6f60dad22a5e.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942/episodes/how-founders-mistake-models-only-for-fundraising-and-what-they-should-do-with-ilyas-anis Duration seconds: 2677 ## Resource Paul Barnhurst speaks with Ilyas Anis, CFO and Chartered Financial Modeler, about using financial models to build stakeholder confidence, drive operational decisions, and tell a clear business story. Ilyas shares insights on integrating AI, avoiding common modeling pitfalls, and the importance of scenario analysis and three-statement models. Ilyas Anis is Finance Lead at Turning Point Brands Canada and Founder of IMnS Associates. He has 15+ years of experience in financial modeling, valuation, and governance across multiple industries. An FCA, CPA, AFM, and FMVA®, he is also a board advisor and AI enthusiast. Expect to Learn Models build trust, not just numbers Connect finance with operations for better decisions AI is a helpful junior analyst, but human judgment matters Scenario analysis and storytelling are essential in models Here are a few quotes from the episode: “Stakeholders don’t pay you for getting the right thing. They pay for the confidence.” – Ilyas Anis “Financial models should open every Monday morning, they shouldn’t die after fundraising.” – Ilyas Anis Ilyas Anis highlights how financial models go beyond numbers to build trust, enable strategic decisions, and communicate a clear business story. He emphasizes the role of AI as a supportive tool, the importance of connecting finance with operations, and practical strategies for building models that deliver actionable insights for stakeholders. Follow Ilyas: Website: https://imnsassociates.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyasanis/ Follow Financial Modeler's Corner: LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/ Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984 Sign up for the Advanced Financia… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942/episodes/how-founders-mistake-models-only-for-fundraising-and-what-they-should-do-with-ilyas-anis/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/financial-modeler-s-corner-6436942/how-founders-mistake-models-only-for-fundraising-and-what-they-should-do-with-ilyas-anis.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.