# Programs Rock!

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Podcast: [Fernando Montes de Oca](https://stenobird.com/podcast/fernando-montes-de-oca-81330)
Published: 2026-06-16T20:17:22+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fernando-m-de-oca/episodes/Programs-Rock-e3ksnfg
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Duration seconds: 783

## Resource

One of the most incredible aspects of 12 step programs is the presence of God! It’s a philosophy I can truly believe in, one I can embrace and hold dear at my own speed. For me, my higher power is often called Hope, Vision, a picture of the future, or simply Imagination. I concentrate on the middle ground, and God then asks me a question: What are the potential paths you could take, and what possibilities exist for achieving those goals? And together, we explore those possibilities.

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