# We Read a Book! The Nazi and the Psychiatrist

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Podcast: [Feminism, Fascism, and the Future](https://stenobird.com/podcast/feminism-fascism-and-the-future-6713092)
Published: 2026-06-17T15:09:30+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/feminismfascismfuture/episodes/We-Read-a-Book--The-Nazi-and-the-Psychiatrist-e3ktt8h
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## Resource

In this episode of We Read a Book! we talk to author Jack El Hai about his book The Nazi and the Psychiatrist. The book tells the story of Dr. Douglas Kelley, a US Army psychiatrist in charge of high level Nazis awaiting trial at Nuremberg at the close of WWII. If this sounds familiar it's because the book was made into a movie with the dreamy Rami Malek as Dr. Kelley and the scarily authentic Russell Crowe as Hermann Göring. So have a listen and learn why Dr. Kelley believed that any culture, including the US, could become fascist. Then READ the book to learn more.

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