# 7.1. How They Come for the Professors (Part 1)

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Podcast: [Feminism, Fascism, and the Future](https://stenobird.com/podcast/feminism-fascism-and-the-future-6713092)
Published: 2025-07-07T20:14:30+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode we talk about the BIG LIE: that any criticism of Israel is anti-semitism. The GoP and even some Dems have been using this lie to attack professors, often feminist scholars who are themselves Jewish. In this part of the episode, we talk to Nicole Morse, former head of gender studies at Florida Atlantic University, and Jessica Pabon, who taught gender studies at SUNY New Paltz. Both were punished by their institutions for criticizing Israeli policy in Gaza.

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