# ‘The Kylee Cast’ feat. Josh Wood, Ep. 38: This Viral Video Will Convince You Obergefell Was A Mistake

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Podcast: [Federalist Radio Hour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/federalist-radio-hour-835351)
Published: 2026-04-23T20:47:20+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2989

## Resource

On this episode of “The Kylee Cast,” Josh Wood, executive director of Them Before Us, joins Federalist Managing Editor Kylee Griswold to discuss the viral video of two gay “dads” laughing as the child they commissioned via surrogate cries for “mama.” Plus, Kylee and Josh discuss adoption, natural rights, and the direct line from this heartbreaking video back to Obergefell. Follow Josh on X: https://x.com/J_K_Wood Learn more about Them Before Us here: https://thembeforeus.com/ Learn more about the Greater Than campaign here: https://greaterthancampaign.com/ The Federalist Foundation is a nonprofit, and we depend entirely on our listeners and readers — not corporations. If you value fearless, independent journalism, please consider a tax-deductible gift today at TheFederalist.com/donate . Your support keeps us going.

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