# Is the Church losing relevance—and what can we do about it?

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Podcast: [Faith & Clarity - Biblical Perspectives and Biblical Wisdom on News & Cultural Issues](https://stenobird.com/podcast/faith-clarity-biblical-perspectives-and-biblical-wisdom-on-news-cultural-issues-4688878)
Published: 2026-04-22T10:00:05+00:00
Episode link: https://www.denisonforum.org/podcasts/faith-and-clarity/is-the-church-losing-relevance-and-what-can-we-do-about-it
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## Resource

In this episode of Faith & Clarity , Dr. Mark Turman is joined by Jurie Kriel of Shoreline Church and the global initiative NXT Move to explore how the church can reach emerging generations in a rapidly changing world. They discuss the growing challenges of declining trust, loneliness, and cultural change, and why collaboration among churches and leaders is more important—and more difficult—than ever. Drawing from his book Hitting the Ball You Cannot See , Jurie highlights the “relevance deficit” many churches face and the need to adapt as technology, including AI, reshapes how people live, connect, and understand identity. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of relational, incarnational ministry, the balance of large gatherings and deeper community, and a hopeful vision for the church’s role in a changing culture grounded in God’s sovereignty. Topics (0:00) Introduction (2:20) Reality check on faith (3:35) Three forces shaping culture (6:08) Hope in God’s plan (10:14) Unity over competition (12:15) Why collaboration is hard (18:50) The relevance deficit (25:27) AI, identity, and digitization (32:49) Humanity redefined by AI (36:23) Identity received in Christ (46:37) Truth moves at trust (55:55) Hope for the future church (59:21) Closing Resources About Jurie Kriel NXT Move Lausanne Movement World Evangelical Alliance Ask Us Anything: info@denisonforum.org Sign-up for a Denison Forum newsletter: DenisonForum.org/subscribe About Jurie Kriel Jurie Kriel leads the NXT Move global community from Austin, Texas, where he also serves on the Executive Leadership team at Shoreline Church. The mission of NXT Move is to gather Christian leaders to address the negative trajectory of Christianity in the next generation, recognizing duplication and siloed thinking a…

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