# Growth Without Jobs: AI and the End of the Old Capitalist Bargain Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end-of-the-old-capitalist-bargain Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end-of-the-old-capitalist-bargain.md Podcast: [Exploring Prosperity- Challenging Pessimism in the US](https://stenobird.com/podcast/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126) Published: 2026-01-19T18:53:13+00:00 Episode link: https://robertdewey3.substack.com/p/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end Audio file: https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/185096309/2dbc189efba44b399b40b9769d17c2a3.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126/episodes/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end-of-the-old-capitalist-bargain Duration seconds: 3834 ## Resource I sat down with Jordi Visser to discuss a historically new phenomenon: economic growth without job growth—and what artificial intelligence means for the future of work, capital, and capitalism itself.We discuss I why economic growth is increasingly happening without job creation and what artificial intelligence means for the future of work and capitalism. This conversation explores how AI is breaking the historic relationship between capital and labor, why this moment feels different from past technological shifts, and why the transition path may be more destabilizing than the destination itself.Read my Substack on this essay here: https://robertdewey3.substack.com/p/w... We also talk about how AI changes competition, erodes traditional sources of career stability and corporate advantage, and forces a rethinking of how prosperity is created and distributed in the years ahead. Thank you very much to our sponsors: Truflation: BUY Truflation products/services and save 10% using code BOBDEW10. Learn about what prices are actually doing by going to https://truflation.com/ If you are interested in the Bitcoin Blockchain Traded Fund, you can find infornation here: https://truflation.com/blog/quantamm-.. .Foundation: Protect your Bitcoin using the latest off-line technology with easy-to-use Passport. Their next product, Passport Prime will protect all passwords off-line with even-better technology. https://foundation.xyz/ River Financial: If not cold storage for your Bitcoin, I’d highly recommend River for buying and holding- River is engineered to protect your Bitcoin over the long run. Use this link for discounts: https://river.com/signup?r=T7GGAF7G Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to AI and Labor Market Disruption 04:58 The Impact on Younger Generations 10:09 AI's Role in Com… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126/episodes/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end-of-the-old-capitalist-bargain/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/exploring-prosperity-challenging-pessimism-in-the-us-6901126/growth-without-jobs-ai-and-the-end-of-the-old-capitalist-bargain.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.