# LP 087 - Real Aliens & Virtual Realities

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Podcast: [ExoAcademian](https://stenobird.com/podcast/exoacademian-2390444)
Published: 2026-05-02T00:00:01+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/pointofconvergence/episodes/LP-087---Real-Aliens--Virtual-Realities-e3ion7h
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## Resource

In this episode of Liminal Phrames, Darren/Exo and Nathan adopt a 30,000 foot view, asking how seeing reality as a construct within Mind changes how we think about aliens, the world, and—perhaps most importantly—ourselves.

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