# Listen Again: Clear Eyes, Full Hearts with Minka Kelly

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Podcast: [Everything Happens with Kate Bowler](https://stenobird.com/podcast/everything-happens-with-kate-bowler-63034)
Published: 2026-02-03T08:30:00+00:00
Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/everything-happens-with-kate-bowler/listen-again-clear-eyes-full-hearts-with-minka-kelly
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How do we stay soft in a world that has taught us to be tough? Actress Minka Kelly is known for her roles as Lyla Garrity on Friday Night Lights or as Samantha in HBO’s Euphoria. Despite her fame on the big screen, one might not realize the chaos that surrounded her childhood. Being raised by a single mom who worked as a stripper and struggled with addiction, Minka had to learn how to take care of herself and the adults around her, and, eventually, to forgive her mom. In this tender conversation, Kate and Minka discuss: How we can be built from the outside in through our friendships and how our friends become our chosen family How anger tells us that a boundary has been crossed The unfinished ways people love us—reconciling our complicated childhoods with the love we feel for each another How Minka has processed her difficult childhood through a lens of love and grace The way Minka’s mom was changed by her cancer diagnosis, and how once they found their way to one another again, there could never, ever be enough time CW: colon cancer, death of a parent, brief mentions of abuse and neglect Looking for the transcript or show notes? Click here. Subscribe to Kate’s Substack for blessings, essays, and reflections that hold what’s hard and beautiful. This episode originally aired May 2023. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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