# Ep. 298: Dr. Frank Spinelli: Surviving the Boy Scouts, Confronting Shame & The Shame Compass

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Podcast: [Everything & Anything...and a bit gay Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/everything-anything-and-a-bit-gay-podcast-6752108)
Published: 2026-08-26T08:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3009

## Resource

Physician, HIV advocate, and author Dr. Frank Spinelli sits down with Zach to share his story of surviving child sexual abuse, helping convict his abuser years later, and navigating a landmark Boy Scouts of America lawsuit that pushed him into his own reckoning with alcohol during the pandemic. Frank introduces the COMPASS framework from his book The Shame Compass — a seven-step model for confronting, processing, and living with shame — and makes the case that healing isn't about "getting over" trauma, but learning to carry it differently, in community rather than isolation. Guest: Dr. Frank Spinelli — physician, certified health coach, and author of The Shame Compass Website: frankspinelli.com Content note: This episode includes candid discussion of child sexual abuse. Listener discretion advised

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