# Episode 17: The Mothers of Heated Rivalry

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Podcast: [Everyone Deserves Sunshine: Girls in the Crease - A Heated Rivalry Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/everyone-deserves-sunshine-girls-in-the-crease-a-heated-rivalry-podcast-7647678)
Published: 2026-05-11T02:05:15+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2397

## Resource

In this Mother’s Day episode, we talk about the mothers of Heated Rivalry, and the ways motherhood, emotional labor, and loss shape who we become. We discuss Ilya's mom and how she exists through absence and how her loss echoes through his relationship with Shane, grief, intimacy, and identity. Then we talk about Yuna Hollander, and her dual presence in Shane's life, both as his mother and his manager. We talk about the pressure to push children toward success, the fear of getting it wrong anyway, and the invisible work mothers carry behind the scenes while trying to hold an entire family together. We connect the emotional realities of the show to our own experiences as mothers, including the moments we fail, the moments we repair, and the constant fear that we are somehow getting it wrong while loving our children as fiercely as we can.

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