# Ep. 66 - Eldest: The Secret Lives of Ants & Under the Menoa Tree

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Podcast: [Eragon And Back Again](https://stenobird.com/podcast/eragon-and-back-again-6409523)
Published: 2025-12-10T07:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4922

## Resource

Saphira has a crush. Lucy and Darien have SEEN TOO MUCH in chapter 34, “The Secret Lives of Ants,” and chapter 35, “Under the Menoa Tree.” Talking points include Saphira being so basic by having a crush on her teacher, speculating on dragon genes and scale color genetics, reading way too much into Eragon having no one to teach him how to shave, Eragon being weirdly voyeuristic, Arya having destinations in mind, and an extensive lecture on why AI is bad, for real. Sparks of Inspiration Darien has FINALLY read This is How You Lose the Time War by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone. It's as good as everyone says… Lucy appreciates the large cast and vibrant settings of Hades 2 . Share your Sparks of Inspiration or your thoughts about Eragon with us on Instagram ⁠ ⁠@EragonPod⁠ ⁠ or send an email to eragonpod@gmail.com (Here it is, Owen!!) Snag your own ⁠EABA merch!⁠ Help Lucy meet Toothless at Universal Epic Universe AND listen to our dragon bonus episodes by supporting the show on Patreon: ⁠ https://www.patreon.com/EABA Cover art by Luana Pastor No portion of this episode may be used for AI training purposes or to create derivative works without express written permission from the creators and co-hosts Lucy Hart and Darien Smartt.

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