# Horses Don't Lie to Veterans | Jane Strong | EAW 53

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Podcast: [Equine Assisted World with Rupert Isaacson](https://stenobird.com/podcast/equine-assisted-world-with-rupert-isaacson-6332132)
Published: 2026-04-30T06:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

✨ "The horses don't see the stories. They see who you are right now — and what you brought with you." – Jane Strong Jane Strong is the founder and executive director of The Equus Effect, a nonprofit based in Connecticut, USA, that uses equine-assisted experiences to help veterans and first responders rebuild healthy relationships — with themselves, each other, and their communities. What sets Jane's work apart is her refusal to treat trauma as a diagnosis to manage. A former ethnographic researcher who spent decades studying subcultures for corporate clients, Jane came to horses and veterans with the same tool she'd always trusted: genuine curiosity. The Equus Effect's 16-hour curriculum blends somatic body-based practices, emotional agility training, and progressive groundwork with horses — all without metaphor, without therapy-speak, and without telling a veteran what anything means. This conversation covers Jane's unusual path — from advertising research to Monty Roberts to a 30-year-old Mustang who taught her that guilt is a waste of time — and dives deep into why horses are uniquely suited to reach the people hardest to reach: the ones still scanning for threats, still waiting for the playbook, still paying a nervous system tax no one else can see. If you want to support the show, you can do so at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LongRideHome 🔍 What You'll Learn in This Episode Why veterans and first responders experience transition stress as a nervous system cost — and why talk therapy often falls short How ethnographic research trained Jane to enter any culture with curiosity instead of assumptions — and why that's essential for working with military populations Why The Equus Effect never uses metaphor in their horse work, and what happens when they let veterans…

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