# Enterprise Wide Search 18: Jean-Georges Perrin - This is Not a Data Product

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Podcast: [Enterprise Wide Search](https://stenobird.com/podcast/enterprise-wide-search-7039824)
Published: 2025-10-10T11:45:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.actian.com//enterprise-wide-search-18-jean-georges-perrin-this-is-not-a-data-product
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Duration seconds: 1700

## Resource

In this episode, co-hosts Emma McGrattan and Ole Olesen-Bagneux sit down with Jean-Georges Perrin—better known as JGP—to discuss the future of data products, the limitations of BI, and the importance of federated thinking in an era of real-time everything. From his early days self-publishing a 300-page C++ guide with a classmate (armed with nothing but Word and a photocopier) to writing Implementing Data Mesh with O’Reilly, JGP reflects on why storytelling, open standards, and metadata will shape the next era of enterprise data. Together, they explore: Why dashboards aren’t data products—and what that reveals about the lifecycle of data. The origin story of Bitol and its zero-code approach to defining open standards. What’s next for Data Mesh after the GenAI hype wave. Why BI might die (and why that’s not a bad thing). How federated governance beats both centralized and decentralized extremes. 🎧 Tune in for an honest, funny conversation about the future of data platforms—and why sometimes, it’s more helpful to say what something isn’t . Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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