# Ep 41 Introversion acquired or inherited? with Kacie Bail

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Podcast: [English Talk — Speaking up in English at work for introverts with Louise Jefferies](https://stenobird.com/podcast/english-talk-speaking-up-in-english-at-work-for-introverts-with-louise-jefferies-6614983)
Published: 2025-05-24T13:50:42+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2848

## Resource

Kacie and I talk about the difficulty of measuring language level and progress, as well as how these skills often don't transfer from the classroom to the boardroom or team meeting, when you work in a second or third language in industries such as IT, Pharmaceuticals and Biotech where the working language is English.

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