# How the world's fourth biggest economy plans to reach 100 pct clean energy

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Podcast: [Energy Insiders - a RenewEconomy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/energy-insiders-a-reneweconomy-podcast-54875)
Published: 2026-03-13T02:12:18+00:00
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David Hochschild, the head of the California Energy Commission, on how the world's fourth biggest economy is moving away from fossil fuels, despite Trump. Plus: News of the week.

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