# Inside the largest power market in the US: How PJM is navigating the collision of data centres, decarbonization, and affordability. Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/energy-gang-887131/inside-the-largest-power-market-in-the-us-how-pjm-is-navigating-the-collision-of-data-centres-decarbonization-and-affordability Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/energy-gang-887131/inside-the-largest-power-market-in-the-us-how-pjm-is-navigating-the-collision-of-data-centres-decarbonization-and-affordability.md Podcast: [Energy Gang](https://stenobird.com/podcast/energy-gang-887131) Published: 2026-04-14T11:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/b0f479be-b5f2-40cf-a127-5b0603e1137b.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/rss.art19.com/episodes/b0f479be-b5f2-40cf-a127-5b0603e1137b.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/energy-gang-887131/episodes/inside-the-largest-power-market-in-the-us-how-pjm-is-navigating-the-collision-of-data-centres-decarbonization-and-affordability Duration seconds: 4247 ## Resource When the workings of an electricity market come to the attention of the White House, it’s usually a sign that something’s wrong. Back in January, 13 state governors went to the White House to agree plans for PJM, the largest electricity market in the US. The market is scrambling to find more energy supply to keep up with the boom in data centers, while holding down ratepayers’ bills. Managing the PJM grid is one of the toughest jobs in the US power industry. And these days it is being carried out in the full glare of political and public scrutiny. If you want to understand the pressures bearing down on the US electricity, PJM is the place to look. It is the largest grid in the country, serving 67 million people across 13 states and the District of Columbia. And it is some of the world's most intense hotspots for new data center development, including the famous “data center alley” of northern Virginia, which takes roughly 90% of the country's internet traffic . When things get complicated for PJM, they get complicated for everyone. On this episode, host Ed Crooks is joined by Asim Haque, Senior Vice President for Governmental and Member Services at PJM, and by regular guest Amy Myers Jaffe, Director of the Energy, Climate Justice and Sustainability Lab at New York University. Together, they unpack how PJM got itself noticed by the White House, and how its problems can be tackled. Asim explains the organization he works for. PJM is a nonprofit that operates the grid, runs the electricity market, and plans the transmission system. It is regulated by FERC, but also accountable to a thousand-plus members across 13 states, each with its own energy policies, its own governor, and its own politics. That structural complexity is central to why running PJM is so challenging. Th… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/energy-gang-887131/episodes/inside-the-largest-power-market-in-the-us-how-pjm-is-navigating-the-collision-of-data-centres-decarbonization-and-affordability/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/energy-gang-887131/inside-the-largest-power-market-in-the-us-how-pjm-is-navigating-the-collision-of-data-centres-decarbonization-and-affordability.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.